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Oh, and I think Cersei's scene with Petyr did a very good job of foreshadowing the way in which she brings the kingdom to ruin once she has complete power (after Tyrion kills Tywin and escapes to the Free Cities).

I just wanted to bring thread further off topic by saying I enjoyed reading C.S. Lewis while I was a youngster.

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I really don't get Lewis, honestly. His characters come across as flat, and his morality simplistic.

Lewis's moralities are just comon decency. It's something that you will never understand because you're a racist that hates black people and jews and support the KKK, the Nazis and the Talaban. You're an anti American liberal scum that supports the victory mosque being built on ground zero and lobbying for Gitmo prisonersto be released.

You're a dispicable excuse for a human being. You're parents must be ashamed having you for a son.

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Lewis's moralities are just comon decency.[/quote]

So, its "common decency" for them to walk to Aslan in Prince Caspian, when the Lion had legs and could very easily have walked to them (being all-powerful and all)? Particularly give that they weren't all sure he was there, and as I recall it was a difficult path to get to him. (I remember that that was the one that had me distinctly banging my head on the wall).

That isn't even going into how he demonizes some uses of magic (since the bible condemns magic), but in other cases characters seem perfectly fine with it (anyone care to explain to me what harm would have come from Lucy making herself more beautiful?).

Lucy was a 9 year old child. Why do you want her to make herself more beautiful for you? What are you, a child stalking pedaphile?

You are one seriously disturbed individual.

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Its all Christian metaphor. Coming to God is by your own choice and is a path fraught with trials and tribulations.

Lucy was tempted to the emtiness (and sin) of vanity, and her beauty is her spirit not her worldly precence.

Pullman's The Golden Compass books are the opposite view, about self determination.


Sheila

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I asked what harm it would do you stupid fuck. I did not say it would be something I desperately wanted to see happen. If a child wanted to see how many laps around the yard they could make while skipping I'd say the same thing, it doesn't mean I'm going to watch them while jerking off.



I know what he was attempting. The issue, though, is how badly he fails at it. Hell, reading Chronicles of Narnia caused me to QUESTION my Christian faith, because of just how fucking stupid Lewis makes Christianity sound.

And why is vanity bad when it doesn't result in harm? Lucy wasn't wasting all her money on beauty products or plastic surgery, or telling everyone else how much better than them she was (...I think the movie may have added in that, which would have made more sense, but correct me if I'm wrong...). If she said a few words, her appearance would be improved.

Its moral harm.... and she would have worried about keeping/losing her new looks etc etc

It was also written mid last century for a middle class Anglo childrens audience so the 'morality' is a bit ponderous and terribly 'nice'

I enjoyed them as a kid, but neither this or Pullman's efforts get a reread as an adult, and I didn't find the movie adaptations of either as engaging as the adaptation of LotR


His Scewtape letters were more entertaining, as was RA MacAvoy's Damiano trilogy. Neither of these works have had a screen outing..

Sheila

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That wasn't established. The only reason we were given for it being bad was because Aslan said so. Morality based on the whim of a being whose only qualification for judging your morality seems to be that he's more powerful than you is just Might Makes Right.



Honestly, I found Pullman's to be infinitely better, but that might be because its easier to make a convincing argument for why people should be free to live their own lives, as long as they treat each other decently, as opposed to a convincing argument for why a single being gets to run all our lives.

[quote="Mucous] The only reason we were given for it being bad was because Aslan said so. Morality based on the whim of a being whose only qualification for judging your morality seems to be that he's more powerful than you is just Might Makes Right.[/quote]


Agreed. Sounds like the way of the world to me.. first your parents pull that line, then society, and then also (most) religion along the way for good measure. Of course one culture's 'morality' can easily be at odds with another, so it is all relative.


Sheila

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Yep.

On and unrelated note, NEW POLL!

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Ok, I'm finally catching up (had fallen 4 episodes behind, just five minutes from end of episode 9 now), and two things are bugging me:

1) They are making Shae WAY too likable, given her eventual betrayal of Tyrion. I wonder if they're going to have to come up with some other motivation (in the books, as I recall, it was purely for gold. He was on trial, accused of murdering the king, and she sold him out because Cersei paid her).

2) Tyrion did NOT get a little slash across his face. HIS. NOSE. WAS. CUT. OFF. I mean, I can kind of understand them casting a handsome actor for a character who was supposed to be horribly deformed, but still...

They'll probably welch on Jaime's upcoming injuries as well.. I guess the CGI budget is too small and the US censors too sqeamish..


Sheila

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