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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:39 pm 
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There's more-- count the reasons listed : 21

In 3 and a half aired seasons--- that's an average of 6 plot twists per season-- so far-- that have been deemed so stupid by voters, that they decided to quit watching as a result.


All those reasons are retarded and you know it. Knocking the best show on TV because it rapes TOS makes you look like a fudgepacker mofugga


As far as I know, HM was a GINOfan like me who defected because he couldn't accept the decisions of the Supreme Leader about the show.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:16 pm 
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Not a 'fan' per se.... I was a member of this board before I became a regular viewer.

In season 1, I didn't ever think the show was as horrible, tho as people here were making it out here. Season 1 actually had a consistency and a suspense to it, that seemed to be going in a genuine direction. The big bragging point the fans had back then, was 'gritty realism' -- it was realistic. It happened in space, but it dealt with situations, emotions, events that could conceivably happen to its viewers, in the real world.

But shared visions of an opera house, a planet of Cylons who all got killed in a war 2000 years ago, when Cylons were supposedly invented on Caprica 50 years ago... true love being a necessary ingredient for conception... 'head characters'; these are not concepts grounded in reality.

EJO always swore he'd walk if they ever happened upon an alien planet; aliens, you see, aren't gritty & realistic, they are fantasy. But mystical visions, apparitions, beings in glowing white robes, 'special destinies'... these things are fantasy, as much as aliens are. I don't see the difference.

It was when the show seemed to just leap away from its original premise, right around the year jump... I always figured they ran out of ideas to keep that same premise alive, so they did the year jump to just toss it all & start off in a much hokier direction-- if I ever was a 'fan' I quit being one, about then.

Still... I watch it every week, so I have to admit, I must like the show on some level.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:39 pm 
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Not a 'fan' per se.... I was a member of this board before I became a regular viewer.

In season 1, I didn't ever think the show was as horrible, tho as people here were making it out here. Season 1 actually had a consistency and a suspense to it, that seemed to be going in a genuine direction. The big bragging point the fans had back then, was 'gritty realism' -- it was realistic. It happened in space, but it dealt with situations, emotions, events that could conceivably happen to its viewers, in the real world.

But shared visions of an opera house, a planet of Cylons who all got killed in a war 2000 years ago, when Cylons were supposedly invented on Caprica 50 years ago... true love being a necessary ingredient for conception... 'head characters'; these are not concepts grounded in reality.

EJO always swore he'd walk if they ever happened upon an alien planet; aliens, you see, aren't gritty & realistic, they are fantasy. But mystical visions, apparitions, beings in glowing white robes, 'special destinies'... these things are fantasy, as much as aliens are. I don't see the difference.

It was when the show seemed to just leap away from its original premise, right around the year jump... I always figured they ran out of ideas to keep that same premise alive, so they did the year jump to just toss it all & start off in a much hokier direction-- if I ever was a 'fan' I quit being one, about then.

Still... I watch it every week, so I have to admit, I must like the show on some level.


That's strange. I found the visions at the Opera House, Inner Baltar and Head Six the BEST of BSG, and the fact they disregarded it is the main reason why I rejected the show at the moment. I was really intrigued by the concept of "Supernatural Science Fiction", it was something that was never tried before, and sounded genial to me. Or at least, very promising...this could have really changed the concept of Sci-fi and would have been a landmark of the genre.

Instead of "supernatural sci-fi", we got granny fucking around, sado maso love story between elder people and top models, cheating wives and plotholes. :cry:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:21 pm 
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That's strange. I found the visions at the Opera House, Inner Baltar and Head Six the BEST of BSG, and the fact they disregarded it is the main reason why I rejected the show at the moment. I was really intrigued by the concept of "Supernatural Science Fiction", it was something that was never tried before, and sounded genial to me. Or at least, very promising...this could have really changed the concept of Sci-fi and would have been a landmark of the genre.

Instead of "supernatural sci-fi", we got granny fucking around, sado maso love story between elder people and top models, cheating wives and plotholes. :cry:


Well, I liked head-Six & Baltar... but at the time, it was really the only 'inexplicable' part of the story.. everything else was some kind of futuristic mystery & secrecy, but nothing outright impossible to explain. the 'fantasy' elements were minor... as you'd expect them to be in a 'mostly realistic' scenario. The fact that the whole show had a realistic feel to it, made head-six, that one fantastic element, really unusual.


My main problem with the Opera house tho is, I didn't think they ever really resolved any of the loose threads from season 1 after the year jump. The opera house visions were just some big twist that took the whole show in a new direction that nothing to do with what we already saw, and I figured it was just a matter of time before they'd toss it all for a new big 'twist', & the new stories would have nothing to do with any of the visions.

Turns out I was right.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:46 pm 
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The show is for those with only short term memory, and hazy about the past, or don't give a damn about the past storyline.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:51 pm 
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Well, I liked head-Six & Baltar... but at the time, it was really the only 'inexplicable' part of the story.. everything else was some kind of futuristic mystery & secrecy, but nothing outright impossible to explain. the 'fantasy' elements were minor... as you'd expect them to be in a 'mostly realistic' scenario. The fact that the whole show had a realistic feel to it, made head-six, that one fantastic element, really unusual.


My main problem with the Opera house tho is, I didn't think they ever really resolved any of the loose threads from season 1 after the year jump. The opera house visions were just some big twist that took the whole show in a new direction that nothing to do with what we already saw, and I figured it was just a matter of time before they'd toss it all for a new big 'twist', & the new stories would have nothing to do with any of the visions.

Turns out I was right.


Ironically, I considered the Opera House the BEST of BSG, it embodied the esoteric and mythlogical aspect of the show that I supposed existed at that time, like the Temple of the Five it seemed that it contained a lot of masonic references, in this case to the Royal Arch, and I really thought that the prophecy of Baltar, Caprica 6 and Hera forming a "family" of some sort was a flash of genius.

Of course, the Final Revelation was that this was just a delusion and in the end, I overrated the esoteric lore of Ron Moore.

In my defense, I can only say that I wasn't the only to be fooled:

http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-gala ... pdate.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:34 am 
I like this one:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=81024

It's one of the more sane threads BSG fans have taken part in


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:35 am 
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Anyone else hate Battlestar Galactica?

I’m usually the first to ignore/laugh at people going on rants and raves about how awesome/rubbish something is, but I truly can’t believe the ultra-high praise Battlestar Galactica has received over the years. Gritty and realistic? Try depressing and tedious.

I guess it’s just a philosophical divide: I watch sci-fi for escapism, fun adventures in space, weird aliens, colourful characters and exciting giant space battles. BSG does only one of those things (the space battles). It shits all over the others, and I find watching it a miserable experience.

I hate the characters. I hate the (frequently contradictory and nonsensical) plotlines and I find the ‘shocking’ twists contrived and stupid.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:51 pm 
HarveyMidnight wrote:
We've had this discussion before.

According to the link that says "see all reasons":

Never Jumped
1693 votes
The Cylons don't have a plan
801 votes
Becomes a soap opera
672 votes
Tigh is a Cylon
476 votes
Return - Mancow Manimal (Starbuck)
416 votes
New Caprica time jumps
350 votes
Cylons quote a Bob Dylan song
328 votes
Mancow has been to Earth
320 votes
The Boxing Match Episode
309 votes
I Do (Chief and Calle)
288 votes
Third season finale
283 votes
Lee gets fat
267 votes
End of the Pegasus storyline
250 votes
Starbuck is a mom
245 votes
Death - Mancow Manimal (Starbuck)
222 votes
Who ISNT a Cylon?
168 votes
Building of the Blackbird
130 votes
Day One
77 votes
Too long a wait between 2007 and 2008 seasons
59 votes
Frak
25 votes
miniseries pilot - female blonde cylon snapped a baby's neck
18 votes
Jumped into New Caprica, released Vipers, jumped out
6 votes


Total "Never jumped" votes = 1693
Total "jumped" votes = 5710

More than 70% of the votes say the show has jumped.


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Is it time MBINO prostituted itself to the Ginoid clubs?


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:09 pm 
How many NBC Bots does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Ask nikki finke, she's must've sucked it out of somebody by now.

Toldja!


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