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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:21 am 
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Palin Problem
She’s out of her league.

By Kathleen Parker

If at one time women were considered heretical for swimming upstream against feminist orthodoxy, they now face condemnation for swimming downstream — away from Sarah Palin.

To express reservations about her qualifications to be vice president — and possibly president — is to risk being labeled anti-woman.

Or, as I am guilty of charging her early critics, supporting only a certain kind of woman.

Some of the passionately feminist critics of Palin who attacked her personally deserved some of the backlash they received. But circumstances have changed since Palin was introduced as just a hockey mom with lipstick — what a difference a financial crisis makes — and a more complicated picture has emerged.

As we’ve seen and heard more from John McCain’s running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn’t know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion.

Yes, she recently met and turned several heads of state as the United Nations General Assembly convened in New York. She was gracious, charming and disarming. Men swooned. Pakistan’s president wanted to hug her. (Perhaps Osama bin Laden is dying to meet her?)

And, yes, she has common sense, something we value. And she’s had executive experience as a mayor and a governor, though of relatively small constituencies (about 6,000 and 680,000, respectively).

Finally, Palin’s narrative is fun, inspiring and all-American in that frontier way we seem to admire. When Palin first emerged as John McCain’s running mate, I confess I was delighted. She was the antithesis and nemesis of the hirsute, Birkenstock-wearing sisterhood — a refreshing feminist of a different order who personified the modern successful working mother.

Palin didn’t make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it.

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there. Here’s but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: “Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we’re talking about today. And that’s something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.”

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

What to do?

McCain can’t repudiate his choice for running mate. He not only risks the wrath of the GOP’s unforgiving base, but he invites others to second-guess his executive decision-making ability. Barack Obama faces the same problem with Biden.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:00 am 
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Nah. Palin has the talent and brains to be tremendous. Its not bad that this is all new to her. That's real change. The important points are that she has real time experience managing governments and real accomplishments and that she has 8 years to master the interview. Which is really what the weakness appears to be. Obama has no such experiences and no time to get them. Being a better speaker and BSer is not synonomous with qualified. Barrack is indeed naive and dangerous. More importantly he lies about who he is and what he wants to do. Socialists have to do that to get elected.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:08 am 
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Lester wrote:
Nah. Palin has the talent and brains to be tremendous.


This is based on...what?

As for her "experience", I've yet to hear about anything she did that was even remotely awesome. Most of it is mundane at best, supremely questionable and eyebrow raising more like.

Oh, and just what has Obama "lied" about?

Prove it.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:20 am 
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Prove it? Prove you don't have a boyfriend. :wink: Prove what? That he is a socialist?

He lies about his tax plan. First 95% of Americans will get a tax cut. Then 95% will not have their taxes raised.

He lies that he is not a liberal. He lies that he will do all these things that undoubtedly require massive funding, but he won't raise taxes on 95% of Americans.

He lies that tax cuts for people with more money than "working families" somehow hurt "working families".

He lies that the middle class have been ignored. They received the second largest tax cut in American history the last 8 years. Second only to Reagan's.

He lied when he denied saying he would unconditionally set down with rogue leaders.

He lies everytime he tries to present himself as anything but a hard left liberal socialist.

Why not be honest about who he is and what he wants to accomplish and let the American people decide if that is what they want? If his approach is truly the superior one.

Why not say I believe that the government can do better for the majority of Americans if it has more funding and more control. I believe we need to collect enough taxes to fully fund healthcare for everyone forever. I believe we need to sit down with rogue fool idiots and seriously listen to their views and concerns. I believe that leaving Iraq immediately is prudent and proper and sound. I believe that taxing corporations and businesses heavily to fund my social programs is the fiscally sound thing to do. I don't believe that these business and corporations will shrink up, cut jobs, move to places with better business environments taking their money, jobs, and highly trained employess with them and we will all be better off. I believe that taxing the guy who makes 250,000 a year will increase the incomes of those making less. I believe that the successful in this country got that way by breaking the backs of the middle class, cheating and stealing from them and holding them down. I believe that raising taxes and increasing government spending will improve the economy for all. I believe that Jimmy Carter had it right.

If socialism and tax and spend liberalism is the better solution, why run from it? Why get such a painful look on your face during debates when your opponent points it out? He should stick his chest out and say Yes, I'm a liberal and the government can do far more good with your money than you can as an individual. Here is how. And explain.

Instead he proposes liberal ideas and then tries to convince everyone that they are not what just proposed.

He is a liar because he has an extremely liberal track record that he deperately tries to downplay and run from and deny. For one reason. If he is not successful in obfuscating his liberalism, he loses.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:45 am 
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Palin has no experience Lester, that's just a lie.

She's a hack picked because she's a crazy christian moron. That's pretty much it and you know it.

She's been mayor/governor of places with NOBODY. She's lied about the Bridge to Nowhere and generally seems unintelligent.

Stop supporting a moron just because she's on your political side, please.


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Experience is relative for sure.

The experience issue is a sure loss for you guy. She clearly and in every way has more executive experience than Barry. You can't have less than none. Small state or not. And in 8 years she will have tons of it.

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Lester...most of that was right wing paranoid supposition, really not based on anything Obama has actually said.

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Oh c'mon Tstone, you know better than that. Of course he never ACTUALLY said that, that's my point. He can't say it. He loses 48 states if he says what he believes.

Everything I wrote is exactly what he is saying without having the sack to say it. The only thing he hasn't said, being careful not to "say" it, is that Jimmy Carter had it right. That was my embelishment.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:17 am 
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Lester wrote:
Oh c'mon Tstone, you know better than that. Of course he never ACTUALLY said that, that's my point. He can't say it. He loses 48 states if he says what he believes.


You're a talented guy, Les, old son, but telepathy I'm certain ain't one of them.

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Everything I wrote is exactly what he is saying without having the sack to say it. The only thing he hasn't said, being careful not to "say" it, is that Jimmy Carter had it right. That was my embelishment.


No, it's the right wing spin on Obama's intentions, rather than going by what he has actually SAID.

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:roll: You're intentionally missing my point. What he says is nothing. Nothing. But his talking points say it all. You are doing much of the same. Playing word games. He didn't actually say he was going to raise taxes or whatever. You as a left leaning guy know good and well what he is saying. But won't admit it. You hide behind, he didn't actually say that. Again he must obfuscate to get elected.

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Obama has an easy job telling lies to idiots.

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Lester wrote:
:roll: You're intentionally missing my point. What he says is nothing. Nothing. But his talking points say it all. You are doing much of the same. Playing word games. He didn't actually say he was going to raise taxes or whatever. You as a left leaning guy know good and well what he is saying. But won't admit it. You hide behind, he didn't actually say that. Again he must obfuscate to get elected.


But you know this for sure because you're telepatic. Point taken. Thanks, good night and good luck! :lol:

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Lester wrote:
He lies that the middle class have been ignored. They received the second largest tax cut in American history the last 8 years. Second only to Reagan's.


Like Reagan, the created a black hole in the deficit of the nation. Good economical politics, congratulations!

I'm looking forward to see how the Government will find the money to save the private companies who are in bankrupt because of the conservatives who acknowledged "God Market" as the only deity of the US for 8 years.

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To express reservations about her qualifications to be vice president — and possibly president — is to risk being labeled anti-woman.


Since she is an anti-abortionist she is anti-woman herself and as such I would have no qualm dismissing her outright. I consider a woman who would seek power over other women and who takes this stand to be considered a traitor to her sex.
She could not in good conscience select for instance a supreme court judge who would best represent my freedoms and rights.
But all of this is irrelevant anyways as I am not American. I have dismissed many political candidates on this issue in Canada though, it is always one of my first questions and considerations. I do not wish to see women return to the dark ages.

Do not misinterpret, I have no issue with anyone being an anti-abortionist so long as they do not actively seek to deny me my rights.


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Like Reagan, the created a black hole in the deficit of the nation. Good economical politics, congratulations!

I'm looking forward to see how the Government will find the money to save the private companies who are in bankrupt because of the conservatives who acknowledged "God Market" as the only deity of the US for 8 years.



Left wing ignorant economic cliches for 100 Alex. (Trebek, that is)

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