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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:46 pm 
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Anybody watching this? I caught the first episode, still need to see the second one some time this week. I recommend it.

Thumbnail review: It's LOTR with gratuitous sex instead of magic.

Looks good, tho.. the various tensions & rivalries between the kingdoms, and within the families who are the 'regulars' are fairly well displayed, and captured my interest. There's too much realistic depiction of a feudal world, to really consider it a 'soap' - but it's definitely rubbing up on soap's bubbly border.

People kept saying "winter is coming" and I thought, 'what's the big deal, it's already snowy?' -- till I did some research & found out apparently the seasons have no determined length in this little medieval world-- one of the warlord's daughters is in her early teens, and apparently it was summertime for most of her life.. so 'winter is coming' turns out to be a pretty frickin' BIG deal after all!

There seem to be some pretty fierce monsters who haven't played much of a big part so far...

Oh, and Jason Momoa-- formerly 'Ronon' on SG-A and soon-to-be Conan The Barbarian -- is in it, too. He's playing some other barbarian-king who ISN'T Conan.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:17 pm 
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Anybody watching this? I caught the first episode, still need to see the second one some time this week. I recommend it.

Thumbnail review: It's LOTR with gratuitous sex instead of magic.

Looks good, tho.. the various tensions & rivalries between the kingdoms, and within the families who are the 'regulars' are fairly well displayed, and captured my interest. There's too much realistic depiction of a feudal world, to really consider it a 'soap' - but it's definitely rubbing up on soap's bubbly border.

People kept saying "winter is coming" and I thought, 'what's the big deal, it's already snowy?' -- till I did some research & found out apparently the seasons have no determined length in this little medieval world-- one of the warlord's daughters is in her early teens, and apparently it was summertime for most of her life.. so 'winter is coming' turns out to be a pretty frickin' BIG deal after all!

There seem to be some pretty fierce monsters who haven't played much of a big part so far...

Oh, and Jason Momoa-- formerly 'Ronon' on SG-A and soon-to-be Conan The Barbarian -- is in it, too. He's playing some other barbarian-king who ISN'T Conan.


Given that this show, so far, has been virtually a scene-by-scene adaptation of the greatest fantasy book series of our time, and you seem uncertain about what direction things are heading in, I can only assume that you have not read the Song of Ice and Fire series, and thus fail at life.


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Given that this show, so far, has been virtually a scene-by-scene adaptation of the greatest fantasy book series of our time, and you seem uncertain about what direction things are heading in, I can only assume that you have not read the Song of Ice and Fire series, and thus fail at life.


Are you trying to be rude or funny?


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Anybody watching this? I caught the first episode, still need to see the second one some time this week. I recommend it.

Thumbnail review: It's LOTR with gratuitous sex instead of magic.

Looks good, tho.. the various tensions & rivalries between the kingdoms, and within the families who are the 'regulars' are fairly well displayed, and captured my interest. There's too much realistic depiction of a feudal world, to really consider it a 'soap' - but it's definitely rubbing up on soap's bubbly border.

People kept saying "winter is coming" and I thought, 'what's the big deal, it's already snowy?' -- till I did some research & found out apparently the seasons have no determined length in this little medieval world-- one of the warlord's daughters is in her early teens, and apparently it was summertime for most of her life.. so 'winter is coming' turns out to be a pretty frickin' BIG deal after all!

There seem to be some pretty fierce monsters who haven't played much of a big part so far...

Oh, and Jason Momoa-- formerly 'Ronon' on SG-A and soon-to-be Conan The Barbarian -- is in it, too. He's playing some other barbarian-king who ISN'T Conan.


I'm watching it and so is Darth and we are both enjoying it.

Jason Momoa NEKID mmmmmm :wink: :D

The first episode grabbed me as well which is highly unusual for me it generally takes 3-4 eps for me to get into something.
I sought out and downloaded the books right away after watching that first episode.

You didn't recognize Sean Bean from LOTR and Lena Headly from Terminator?

I'd say more but you haven't seen the second episode so I'll wait. :D


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Following strong critical and viewer response to the series’ April 17 debut, HBO has renewed GAME OF THRONES for a second season, it was announced today by Michael Lombardo, president, HBO Programming.

“We are delighted by the way David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have brought George R.R. Martin’s amazing book series to the screen, and thrilled by the support of the media and our viewers,” said Lombardo. “This is the continuation of an exciting creative partnership.”

Based on the bestselling fantasy book series “A Song of Ice and Fire,” by George R.R. Martin, GAME OF THRONES follows kings and queens, knights and renegades, liars and noblemen as they vie for power in a land where summers span decades and winters can last a lifetime.

Among the early critical raves, TV Guide has called the show “a crowning triumph” and “brilliant,” while the Los Angeles Times termed GAME OF THRONES “a great and thundering series,” as well as “wild and bewitching.” The Hollywood Reporter praised the “excellent storytelling, superb acting and stunning visual effects,” and the New York Post observed that the “art directing, acting and incredible sets are as breathtaking as the massive scope of the series.”

The gross audience for the premiere night of GAME OF THRONES on the main HBO channel was 4.2 million viewers.


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Rowan wrote:
Mucous wrote:

Given that this show, so far, has been virtually a scene-by-scene adaptation of the greatest fantasy book series of our time, and you seem uncertain about what direction things are heading in, I can only assume that you have not read the Song of Ice and Fire series, and thus fail at life.


Are you trying to be rude or funny?


A mixture of the two. I am honestly shocked by any fantasy fan who HASN'T read the books. It's like a sci-fi fan who hasn't seen Star Wars.


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Mucous wrote:

Given that this show, so far, has been virtually a scene-by-scene adaptation of the greatest fantasy book series of our time, and you seem uncertain about what direction things are heading in, I can only assume that you have not read the Song of Ice and Fire series, and thus fail at life.


Are you trying to be rude or funny?


A mixture of the two. I am honestly shocked by any fantasy fan who HASN'T read the books. It's like a sci-fi fan who hasn't seen Star Wars.


It would have sounded a whole lot better if you had expressed this thought (astonishment/ surprise/ shock) instead of jumping to rude right out the gate. When you use that approach you gain someone to share your interest with, when you chose the approach you did you turn a person off and push them away. Harvey is a great person to discuss with as he loves to get into the details of a subject and really explore it, not to mention he does not resort to insults when he disagrees.

Fantasy and science fiction for me are big loves but they hardly begin to cover my literary interests. There are only so many hours in a day in which a person has to devote to reading, and even though I can still polish off a book a day ( when I don't spend quite so much time posting on the internet, and only because I don't have children) it is still not enough time to read every book I want to read in every subject that interests me. I will never live long enough to accomplish that. Each subject has benchmark books and the list of "must read" grows constantly as new authors arrive. The book "A Song of Fire and Ice" was only just published in '96, that is like yesterday to me. Personally I think the bigger failure in life would be devoting all your energy to reading and not living it. (says the voracious reader lol)

For the record I have met scifi fans who refuse to watch Star Wars.

I had not heard of Harry Dresden until the tv series came out but when I watched it I liked it enough to read the books, all of them and because I liked the author and what he did with Dresden I ended up reading the whole Codex Alera series as well by him.
I had never heard of True Blood until the tv series I read all of those books as well.
I had never heard of The Vampire Diaries and after that came out on tv I read all of those books.
Now it is the turn of The Game of Thrones.


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Rowan wrote:
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Rowan wrote:

Are you trying to be rude or funny?


A mixture of the two. I am honestly shocked by any fantasy fan who HASN'T read the books. It's like a sci-fi fan who hasn't seen Star Wars.


It would have sounded a whole lot better if you had expressed this thought (astonishment/ surprise/ shock) instead of jumping to rude right out the gate.


Yeah, true, but when has this ever been a polite board?

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When you use that approach you gain someone to share your interest with, when you chose the approach you did you turn a person off and push them away. Harvey is a great person to discuss with as he loves to get into the details of a subject and really explore it, not to mention he does not resort to insults when he disagrees.


...I'm reasonably certain he's insulted me in the past...or am I getting him confused with Crappy...honestly, unless I've been deeply engaged in argument with a certain person (ie Neuro, ASX), or their picture is an attractive woman (ie you), I have trouble remember whose who.

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Fantasy and science fiction for me are big loves but they hardly begin to cover my literary interests. There are only so many hours in a day in which a person has to devote to reading, and even though I can still polish off a book a day ( when I don't spend quite so much time posting on the internet, and only because I don't have children) it is still not enough time to read every book I want to read in every subject that interests me. I will never live long enough to accomplish that. Each subject has benchmark books and the list of "must read" grows constantly as new authors arrive.


Martin is typically thought of as the Tolkien of our time, so he should be at the top. Honestly, I think he's far better than Tolkien. Less pretentious, and more human.

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The book "A Song of Fire and Ice" was only just published in '96, that is like yesterday to me. Personally I think the bigger failure in life would be devoting all your energy to reading and not living it. (says the voracious reader lol)


No idea what that means.

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For the record I have met scifi fans who refuse to watch Star Wars.


HERETICS!

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I had not heard of Harry Dresden until the tv series came out but when I watched it I liked it enough to read the books, all of them and because I liked the author and what he did with Dresden I ended up reading the whole Codex Alera series as well by him.


Dresden Files <<<<<<< A Song of Ice and Fire

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I had never heard of True Blood until the tv series I read all of those books as well.
I had never heard of The Vampire Diaries and after that came out on tv I read all of those books.


Haven't read those, so I can't comment, but I'm reasonably sure the same applies.

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Now it is the turn of The Game of Thrones.


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You're all supporting racism by watching this show.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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You're all supporting racism by watching this show.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.


How dare they infer doggie-style sex is barbarian!


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You're all supporting racism by watching this show.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.


People really need to quit throwing the word 'racist' around when they clearly haven't read the definition.


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Yeah, true, but when has this ever been a polite board?

I have been posting here 5 years this June and I could count on one hand the amount of people here who have been rude to me. People generally speaking treat you the way you treat them. Even when someone is rude to me I almost always hold my tongue, there is no place to go but down once you open that door and it's hard to come back from and impossible to take back what you've said. I generally give people the benefit of the doubt, they are having a bad day, something personal is upsetting them, maybe they misunderstood, maybe they are mixing me up with someone else etc. Seldom has someone started rudely with me and continued to be rude when each time I was never rude back.

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...I'm reasonably certain he's insulted me in the past...or am I getting him confused with Crappy...honestly, unless I've been deeply engaged in argument with a certain person (ie Neuro, ASX), or their picture is an attractive woman (ie you), I have trouble remember whose who.

Harvey has a crazy amount of patience but no one is perfect. I've lost my patience a few times as Darth and Larocque can attest to lol. You can insult someone sometimes and not realise it was taken that way. Think back to your own experiences at Fleets. You came there full of curiousity and thought you were just expressing this but most of the older posters there thought you came across as very insulting.
In this case I was talking about using language like "fucking idiot" or stuff along that line, put downs.

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Martin is typically thought of as the Tolkien of our time, so he should be at the top. Honestly, I think he's far better than Tolkien. Less pretentious, and more human.
Well considering I haven't even read Tolkien yet...

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The book "A Song of Fire and Ice" was only just published in '96, that is like yesterday to me. Personally I think the bigger failure in life would be devoting all your energy to reading and not living it. (says the voracious reader lol)

No idea what that means.

Our awareness of the passage of time changes as we get older. When you're a kid it seems like the summer stretches before you but when you get to my age I blink and a year is gone. Time moves with dizziying speed! I have goals when it comes to books. I want to read every book that ever won the Nebula, Yugo, Pulitzer or Nobel prize, the 100 most important Canadian books, all of Shakespear's works plus all the books listed in the book A Lifetime's Reading: The World's 500 Greatest Books by Philip Ward, http://home.comcast.net/~netaylor1/philipward500.htm (in the order he recomends, which is next to impossible as I can't find half of them.) this is not including all the other books on all the subjects that I enjoy, or those written in French that I want to read too! So comming upon anyone new at this point really takes a back seat to my present book goals. 1996 is very recent to me and certainly new as I all ready had all these book goals in place since 1990.

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I can do that, I'll post it here.


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It all makes so much more sense now.

http://bit.ly/hhUJ6F

OK, not really but it did make me laugh.

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Rowan wrote:
Mucous wrote:
Yeah, true, but when has this ever been a polite board?

I have been posting here 5 years this June and I could count on one hand the amount of people here who have been rude to me. People generally speaking treat you the way you treat them. Even when someone is rude to me I almost always hold my tongue, there is no place to go but down once you open that door and it's hard to come back from and impossible to take back what you've said. I generally give people the benefit of the doubt, they are having a bad day, something personal is upsetting them, maybe they misunderstood, maybe they are mixing me up with someone else etc. Seldom has someone started rudely with me and continued to be rude when each time I was never rude back.


Look, maybe you come here for serious discussions, but I come here to laugh, and sometimes vent (ie the discussion of circumcision). If people want to have a serious discussion with me, they're more than welcome to come over to my youtube channel, where I do my serious discussing.

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...I'm reasonably certain he's insulted me in the past...or am I getting him confused with Crappy...honestly, unless I've been deeply engaged in argument with a certain person (ie Neuro, ASX), or their picture is an attractive woman (ie you), I have trouble remember whose who.

Harvey has a crazy amount of patience but no one is perfect. I've lost my patience a few times as Darth and Larocque can attest to lol. You can insult someone sometimes and not realise it was taken that way. Think back to your own experiences at Fleets. You came there full of curiousity and thought you were just expressing this but most of the older posters there thought you came across as very insulting.


And they ended up banning all discussion of the thing they didn't like (also, btw, they've repeatedly refused to tell me the reason for my final banning). Yeah, I really feel like it was my fault that they couldn't even discuss something they didn't like politely. :roll:

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Well considering I haven't even read Tolkien yet...


Don't bother. He's actually quite boring.

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The book "A Song of Fire and Ice" was only just published in '96, that is like yesterday to me. Personally I think the bigger failure in life would be devoting all your energy to reading and not living it. (says the voracious reader lol)

No idea what that means.

Our awareness of the passage of time changes as we get older. When you're a kid it seems like the summer stretches before you but when you get to my age I blink and a year is gone. Time moves with dizziying speed! I have goals when it comes to books. I want to read every book that ever won the Nebula, Yugo, Pulitzer or Nobel prize, the 100 most important Canadian books, all of Shakespear's works plus all the books listed in the book A Lifetime's Reading: The World's 500 Greatest Books by Philip Ward, http://home.comcast.net/~netaylor1/philipward500.htm (in the order he recomends, which is next to impossible as I can't find half of them.) this is not including all the other books on all the subjects that I enjoy, or those written in French that I want to read too! So comming upon anyone new at this point really takes a back seat to my present book goals. 1996 is very recent to me and certainly new as I all ready had all these book goals in place since 1990.


I've only seen/read a bit of Shakespear (let me think...Julius Caesar, Romeo and Juliet, Much Ado about Nothing, and The Taming of the Shrew), but a far more versed friend of mine said its actually more meant to be seen, and advised me against reading it. And, in my experience, the performances are more satisfying (I've read Julius Caesar, R&J, and Taming).

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I can do that, I'll post it here.


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Rowan wrote:
Harvey has a crazy amount of patience but no one is perfect. I've lost my patience a few times as Darth and Larocque can attest to lol. You can insult someone sometimes and not realise it was taken that way. Think back to your own experiences at Fleets. You came there full of curiousity and thought you were just expressing this but most of the older posters there thought you came across as very insulting.


Thank you.. I can't say for certain that I've NEVER insulted Musty. But, in general, it is not my practice to insult people--I've felt the need to tell someone just what i think of them... even then, I just state facts i.e. "I don't like you, because...." not just stupid nicknames or insults.

If I genuinely DISLIKE someone, most of the time I just put them on ignore. Life is too short to be petty-- and I enjoy arguing with people I LIKE much more than with those I don't. :twisted:


For the record, I'm not and never claimed to be a 'fantasy fan'. And I never even HEARD of 'Song Of ice And Fire' before the 'Blastr' entry that announced it was being developed as an HBO series. Tho, I have read the Xanth series, and the 'Incarnations of Immortality' series, both by Piers Anthony.... and I'm gradually makin' my way thru the Dresden books.. I've got thru the fourth book so far.


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