CES Reply: Foreword

This is an excerpt from “A Reply from a Former CES Employee.” The entire document can be downloaded for free.

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As a freshman at the University of Southern California, I was first exposed to what is commonly referred to as “anti-Mormon literature.” I read “The Godmakers” from cover to cover, which described a church with a history and doctrines far darker and more sinister than the relatively dull one in which I had spent the entirety of my life. I also ended up listening to a “Christian” radio station which broadcast the rantings of one Walter Martin, who had made a living as an “expert” on “cults” and the “occult,” a world in which Mormons supposedly play a starring role. In reviewing the work of these people who had made tearing down my faith their mission, I found myself feeling frustrated, frightened, and powerless – frustrated because I knew that a good chunk of what they were saying was flat-out wrong, frightened because I wasn’t sure if the stuff they claimed that I didn’t recognize was actually true, and powerless because I was in no position to offer any substantive rebuttal.

I returned to Salt Lake over Christmas break and, out of the blue, was given a copy of “The Truth About ‘The Godmakers,” a book by a man named Gilbert Scharffs that took “The Godmakers” and refuted every charge in it, line by line, with ample documentation. (You can now read the whole book online – no charge.) I later met Mr. Scharffs after I returned home from my missionary service in Scotland, and I thanked him for his thoughtful reply. What struck me, beyond the saliency of his arguments, was the patient, Christlike tone with which he wrote. Where “The Godmakers” had been inflammatory and insulting, Scharffs had been reasonable and kind, with no attempt to attack or defame his supposed enemies personally.

That is the tone I will try to emulate as I reply, line by line, to Jeremy Runnells’ magnum anti-Mormon opus, “Letter to a CES Director.”

The CES Letter is quite different in tone from “The Godmakers” and my old pal Walter, who were making the case that Mormonism is a Satanic cult, whereas Jeremy is making a more intellectual case that the Church is little more than a clumsy, obvious, and occasionally well-intended fraud. So while Walter Martin wanted to tear down my Mormon faith to make me a Christian, Jeremy Runnells just wants to tear down my Mormon faith and leave me comfortless in the theological rubble. It’s a far bleaker worldview than the one “The Godmakers” was peddling, and it’s also, I think, a far more devastating assault on the LDS faith.

Runnells insists that he still hasn’t received a reply from the CES director to whom his magnum opus was addressed. I’m no CES Director, but I did teach early morning seminary for three years in Westwood, California, in the meetinghouse right behind the Los Angeles Temple. They actually paid me to do it, more or less making me a CES employee, although my “salary” was only $599 per year. Another dollar and I would have had to declare it on my income tax. (As it was, they labeled the check as “reimbursement for expenses,” but, just to be safe, I still paid tithing on it.) This probably means I was more of a CES contractor than a CES employee, but I prefer the title as it is, even if it contains error. That way, my fallibility will not be in question.

There have been a few other attempts to respond, most notably from FairMormon, which Runnells dismisses as a group of “unofficial apologists.” I take from this that only a direct response from the Quorum of the Twelve or the First Presidency would satisfy Runnells as an “official apologist” response, and it is unlikely that any such response will come through official channels. Certainly this response is deeply unofficial – I’m the ward Webelos leader, which is the limited extent of my current ecclesiastical authority. So nothing I write here should be interpreted as anything but the extremely fallible opinion of a rank-and-file church member. One wonders, then, why I would bother to write it at all.

To answer that, I would cite the Gilbert Scharffs example, recognizing that he was actually a CES Director, and so his response might rise to the level of a more official response. Regardless of his credentials, I will be forever grateful to Brother Scharffs for offering solid answers to an ignorant college freshman who was looking for them when the “Godmakers” authors were eager to destroy my faith. I doubt anything I write here will have any impact on the opinion of Jeremey Runnells – he seems to have pretty well made up his mind on this stuff – but if there is a single kid, or adult, who reads this and feels a little less frustrated, frightened, or powerless, then writing this will be worth it.

I also recognize that there is often little value in being “anti-anti,” as it usually generates more heat than light, and the exchanges are seldom, if ever, accompanied by the presence of the Holy Spirit. The Book of Mormon quotes Jesus as saying that “he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another. Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another; but this is my doctrine, that such things should be done away.” (See 3 Nephi 11:29-30)

I’m sad to report that I’ve had my share of contentions on subjects like these, and I have no desire to deliberately reproduce that experience here on anywhere else. I also don’t want this to be interpreted as a personal indictment of Jeremy Runnells. He is a man I have never met and a man I am in no position to judge. I don’t think it’s helpful to demonize those who doubt, or even those who leave. I will therefore attempt to rise to a level of charity, honesty, and compassion in my response, and I will probably, at times, fail miserably.  In fact, I probably already have. That’s a good thing, as it really takes the pressure off going forward. I also intend to keep things as light and playful as possible, as I don’t see any reason to treat this thing like a funeral. Just because we’re dealing with issues of eternal salvation, damnation, and eternal lakes of fire and brimstone, there’s no reason we can’t have a little fun.

So, some ground rules – Jeremy’s words will be reproduced here in forest green, the color of life. My responses will be in black, the color of darkness. In addition, as I mentioned yesterday, much of the info I will put into my response has already been on my blog in one form or another. I will therefore be cutting, pasting, and freely plagiarizing myself without giving myself proper attribution. (In fact, I’ve done it several times already in this foreword, and you probably didn’t even notice!) It saves me the time of rewriting what I’ve already written on a number of these subjects, and I’m nothing if not lazy.

With that inspirational background out of the way, we begin the actual reply tomorrow. Be sure to tune in!


A Reply from a Former CES Employee
CES Reply: Introduction

4 thoughts on “CES Reply: Foreword”

  1. I read a sampling of your reply. I don’t know why, but you just don’t get it. Its called conative dissonance in your case. If you in facet read the CES letter, there is a severe lack of understanding it. You seem to miss the point in unrelated ways. And you did vote for trump.

    1. I just saw this comment years after the fact, and it made me chuckle. What sampling of this would lead you to believe I voted for Trump? (Spoiler: I did not vote for Trump.) And to suggest that I may not have read the CES Letter is ludicrous. The whole CES Letter is incorporated unto my reply. In facet [sic], it is impossible to read my reply without also reading the CES Letter at the same time.

      Perhaps it’s my conative [sic] dissonance acting up again.

  2. Thanks very much for this detailed response to Runnells. It is both funny and factual. I have read it carefully and shared it several times.

    I have tried to do something similar with John Dehlin’s (and Dr. Michael Coe’s) attack on the Book of Mormon based on Mesoamerican archaelogy. You may be aware of Dr. Coe–he is a rather famous Mayanist. His article in Dialogue in 1973 has apparently been a factor for some in leaving the Church, ditto his 2011 series of three podcasts with Dehlin.

    It turns out that Dr. Coe has read the Book of Mormon exactly once (I asked him). Dehlin was careful not to ask that question during the podcasts. 🙂 Sorry, Dr. Coe, that isn’t scholarship.

    Anyway, if you would like, here is my essay on “Joseph Smith: The World’s Greatest Guesser-A Bayesian Statistical Analysis of 120 Correspondences between the Book of Mormon and The Maya”


  3. You cannot fully understand the Gospel (Christ’s plan of salvation) until you experience the Gospel (BoFHG.). You cannot fully understand faith until you show faith, and the Lord rewards your Faith, and at that point it is no longer faith, but has become knowledge. Without knowledge you cannot be saved. Satan’s plan of internment; do not confront directly, IE tell the people to have faith, then replace Christ with a prophet and a church and convince people that by having faith in a prophet and a church they are actually showing faith in Christ. In order to experience Christ’s plan you have to seek and search for truth, then show faith in the truth, it takes much effort, especially for those who have been given much. Satan’s plan is to place the gospel into a box labeled church, place in priesthood, temple saving ordnances, men dressed in white robes (prophets), teachings not found in scripture, then wrap it all up in the outward wrappings of the Bible and BOM all while ignoring the teachings inside, and don’t forget to keep the people so busy doing man’s work that their Gospel is expressed in terms like, “What job do you have” asked for the sole purpose of showing their place of importance, place it all in the box and tie it all up with a pretty bow (prosperity) and say here, here is Christ and his gospel, come and get it. You can only be saved through us, “The one true church”. Oh, and don’t forget to mention Christ’s name when referring to us. Once you recognize Satan’s plan in action you can see it at work and controlling all factions of your life, it’s in all the governments and religions of the world. The only place it is not found is in the mind of the wise virgins, why is it not found there you might ask, because they have knowledge.

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